XREAL’s star startup team
Compared with today’s big Silicon Valley companies, our team is relatively grassroots, but in the domestic market, we truly feel that we did everything we could to build what we believe is the best complete XR team.
Because this is an interdisciplinary field, it requires experts in optics, algorithms, manufacturing processes, operating systems, hardware, and more.
So in this area, for example, our chief optical scientist is someone who participated in the design of helmets for J-20 pilots back then;
Because this is an interdisciplinary field, it requires experts in optics, algorithms, manufacturing processes, operating systems, hardware, and more.
So in this area, for example, our chief optical scientist is someone who participated in the design of helmets for J-20 pilots back then;
Our algorithms are also led by top experts who came from Google. Their lab has essentially shaped half of the AR industry, computer perception, and computer vision.
From our hardware team, our design team, and our other teams, we brought together people who, in our view, came from the very best companies across their fields, and who were either returnees from overseas or veterans with 20 or 30 years of deep experience in the industry.
Speaking of our team, we were actually nurtured in Silicon Valley, born in Beijing, and grew across the country, and eventually around the world. Because we are built on the foundation of China’s supply chain and talent, our products and market planning are ultimately aimed at global expansion. So today, you can see that we not only have team members in China, but also teams in Japan, South Korea, Thailand, as well as Europe and the US.
From our hardware team, our design team, and our other teams, we brought together people who, in our view, came from the very best companies across their fields, and who were either returnees from overseas or veterans with 20 or 30 years of deep experience in the industry.
Speaking of our team, we were actually nurtured in Silicon Valley, born in Beijing, and grew across the country, and eventually around the world. Because we are built on the foundation of China’s supply chain and talent, our products and market planning are ultimately aimed at global expansion. So today, you can see that we not only have team members in China, but also teams in Japan, South Korea, Thailand, as well as Europe and the US.
What led to the creation of XREAL, and why choose the AR field
After I finished my PhD, my background was actually in CPU and GPU architecture. So, my first job was at Nvidia in the US. At the time, when I was at Nvidia, I was actually working on GPUs. If you follow GPUs, you probably know they’ve been very hot recently. Back then, we strongly felt that I had the opportunity to optimize many different algorithms from all over the world related to 3D, computers, and artificial intelligence, and in that process we were exposed to AR-related use cases.
Later, I went to work at a company we thought was extremely mysterious called MagicLeap, and I joined that team as one of the earliest Chinese engineers there. Well, this is basically a foreign country. Those working in the AR industry are either Huangpu Military Academy or the earliest ticket company, so I was actually deeply shocked there. I think this is the next device that will replace smartphones. And this is very, very big and very, very real—I feel like it’s right in front of us. So in that moment, my immediate feeling was, “Wow, I have to come back to China and do this,” because we believed that, just like in other industries, under such a major track and such a major opportunity, Chinese companies would also be able to stand out. So why couldn’t that person be me? With that thought in mind, I decided to return to China at that time.
But I do think that my understanding of this industry, my sense of its aesthetics, and my judgment about the direction of its technology all come from my earlier experience in Silicon Valley and other related fields. Those experiences also led us to this point, and to some extent, we feel that we’re standing on the shoulders of giants. One slightly different thing is that, in some industries in the past, the US had already launched products first, and it took us another 4 or 5 years to gradually catch up. But in this industry today, it’s very possible that before the US has even officially taken its first step, Chinese companies already have a chance to move to the very forefront of the industry.
Some stories from the process of choosing this track
This was my first time starting a business, and I remember very clearly that investors had previously told us they basically didn’t look for first-time founders, because you might have to pay a lot of tuition along the way. So we were actually very cautious, afraid that if our understanding of entrepreneurship was inconsistent or incomplete, we would take a lot of detours and pay a lot of tuition on this entrepreneurial journey, so we worked hard to learn these things. And along the way, you realize there are really two things we had in mind. First, we felt that as long as we were heading in the right direction, more and more people would gradually lend a hand and help us do this difficult thing. Second, as you move forward, you also find that you keep running into resistance that you had never imagined before.
Let me give you an example. What I think we can see now is that we chose a very, very difficult path. At the beginning, many people tried to persuade us, saying, “Why are you doing something as hard as AR? Why not take a step back and turn the capabilities you already have into an algorithm? For example, commercializing that algorithm right away would actually be much easier to achieve than setting a long-term goal of doing AR.” Then, through this process, you can gradually make money and then slowly pursue your AR dream. I really resisted that idea at the time. Because I think it’s like being a Michelin chef who wants to open a Michelin restaurant, but someone tells you that opening a Michelin restaurant costs too much, so why not start by setting up a roadside barbecue stand and wait until you’ve made enough money before opening your restaurant? But I think that once you set up that barbecue stand, you may never be able to go back. So, we might as well stick to our bigger dream, our more distant goal. Although it was even harder to persuade investors at that time, I also believed that the investors we persuaded, like me, believed in dreams. But at the same time, I can also see that some people would say, “You’re being too idealistic.” I also think that maybe 90% of entrepreneurs and investors in China don’t need ideals, but among the 10% of idealistic entrepreneurs, maybe 90% will fail, and yet the final 10% who succeed are exactly the ones who can move the world forward. And if we look back at the past 100 or several hundred years of history, society has often been driven forward by these people, too. That’s one thing.
Another thing that left a deep impression on us was when we were doing very well and had just started taking our first step toward going global. Many customers from my former employer came over to us, and at that time, my former employer was under a lot of competitive pressure, so they did something: they directly sued us in the US, saying, “You are a Chinese engineer and scientist, and you stole American technology and brought it back,” so it left a deep impression on me at the time. At the time, I was traveling around China for meetings when, all of a sudden, our overseas legal team called me and said, “We’ve received word that in an hour, you’ll be on the front page of Bloomberg News, saying that another Chinese engineer stole technology again.” I remember feeling very panicked at the time. I wondered why we were simply trying to start a business, yet had to endure so many baseless accusations. But later, after you calm down, you have no choice but to respond to the lawsuit, because I felt that this matter had a huge impact on our international reputation. So I spent a year on it, along with a great deal of effort from both me and my team, providing evidence and cooperating with the investigation throughout the process. We spent a year fighting the lawsuit with them, and in the end, all 4 of their allegations were withdrawn. We won the case completely, and this also helped verify that our technology is entirely independently developed and controllable. Therefore, because of this reversal of the matter, it actually increased the trust of all overseas customers in us.
XREAL’s first appearance
What impressed me most was that from the first day we made our debut, our booth had the heaviest traffic in the entire exhibition area. Because everyone’s first reaction when they saw my product was that they hadn’t expected such a stunning display to come from an unassuming startup in China. That’s when I realized how much attention this industry was getting, and word spread quickly, so more and more people started coming to us. What stands out most in my memory is that, that year, we won CES’s Best Startup award, and it was the first time CES had officially given that award to a Chinese company.
Then we were also shortlisted for that year’s CES BEST OF THE BEST, the top award. We were one of the 6 finalists, but in the end we lost. I remember it clearly—the winner was lab-grown meat. And I thought, compared with that, if they’re solving world hunger, then AR can wait a little longer, right? So that year, we really felt overwhelmed—the recognition our product received overseas gave us tremendous positive feedback and made us feel that what we were doing was valuable, meaningful, absolutely the right thing to do, and something truly rare and precious. That moment really left a deep impression on us: many people had one attitude before they knew us or tried our products, but after trying them, we could see a smile on their faces. We could see that the first thing he would say to us was congratulations. They would feel that, in some ways, you had already delivered an experience—and a product and company overall—that far exceeded their expectations, and that really gave us tremendous positive encouragement.
How did XREAL achieve the top market share last year and in the first half of this year
We believe this is a huge arena, and that today it is still just the very beginning. Our temporary lead may be related to some first-mover advantages and to having made some of the right moves early on, but we still believe that we will face more and more interesting competition in the future. I also encourage this kind of competition, and we believe we have the chance to have the last laugh. We also believe that 5 or 10 years from now, we’ll still be able to say with pride that we have the highest market share in this industry—or, if not number one, we’ll be in the top three.
Although this is a brand-new technology and a brand-new market, we have still built up strong growth momentum. For example, since last year, our share of the overall AR market has been close to 40%, and by Q2 of this year, it was 39-point-something. We can also expect that in the upcoming Q3, with the launch of our new products, our market share will increase further. So, since our product launched last year, XREAL has ranked first in market share in the global AR market last year and in the first half of this year.
XREAL's growth experience in overseas markets
First of all, we didn’t originally plan to expand internationally. We thought, “Hey, what if the AR market took off? We had an early start in China, and we became a leader in this market there.” But as we kept going, we realized that our products were also very competitive overseas. Then, in particular, I think in the early days, we received recognition from some particularly good overseas upstream and downstream partners. By chance, I slowly became part of this overseas ecosystem, and then found a step-by-step path to commercialization.
So here, I’m very grateful to Qualcomm, among others. Back then, we wanted to innovate, so we went to Qualcomm to discuss whether these glasses could connect with a phone. But when we approached Qualcomm China, they said no one had ever done this before and that they didn’t think it could be done. So, with no other option, we thought we’d try Qualcomm in the US instead, and we got in touch with Qualcomm’s US headquarters. At the time, the person in charge of Qualcomm XR, Hugo, said, “This is interesting. Let’s start joint debugging right away.” So we immediately took my engineering team to San Diego, and we did joint debugging for two months. For the first time, we made a split device like this work—glasses driven by a mobile phone. This was at the end of 2018, so at MWC after CES in 2019, the Barcelona trade show, we made our first appearance with a complete setup in which the glasses were driven by a mobile phone.
At that time, we also had a very interesting experience: after CES, we had won everyone’s recognition. Then one time, LGU+ in South Korea—one of the top three telecom operators in the country and an LG affiliate—reached out to us, and we showed them this product again. After he saw it, he asked me, “Wait a second. I’ll get our CTO to take a look right away.” Then, after the CTO looked at it, they said, “Will you be here tomorrow? I hope our CEO can see it tomorrow. I’d like the CEO to take a look at this product.” Then I said okay, so I stayed one more day. While the CEO was there, the entire LG Group happened to be having a meeting, and sitting next to him was the CEO of LG Electronics. He quickly showed him this thing and said, “What do you think of this?” They all thought it was very interesting, and I then added that we really hoped this could work with LG Electronics phones so we could exhibit together at MWC. So the leader made the call on the spot and said, “Hey, let’s work together and give this a try.” We immediately flew programmers and engineers from China to South Korea, and everyone worked together on integration and testing for nearly a month. We made it happen perfectly that February: we met in South Korea at the beginning of February, and by the end of February, we were already showcasing it on the world stage.
So in this process, we also received a great deal of praise, and at that moment, more and more carriers were willing to work with us and build mutual trust. Then later, we realized that carrier channels still had a fairly long chain, so we started thinking about whether we could simplify the adaptation process as much as possible and connect directly with consumers. That’s why we developed some very strong online channels, including Amazon, which let us reach overseas consumers directly with our products at almost the lowest cost and in the shortest time. And because consumers, especially in many advanced developed markets, are already somewhat familiar with AR and VR, our conversion in this area became very fast.
So in this process, we also received a great deal of praise, and at that moment, more and more carriers were willing to work with us and build mutual trust. Then later, we realized that carrier channels still had a fairly long chain, so we started thinking about whether we could simplify the adaptation process as much as possible and connect directly with consumers. That’s why we developed some very strong online channels, including Amazon, which let us reach overseas consumers directly with our products at almost the lowest cost and in the shortest time. And because consumers, especially in many advanced developed markets, are already somewhat familiar with AR and VR, our conversion in this area became very fast.
What left a deep impression on me was that during one collaboration with a carrier in the UK, their CEO quickly agreed to meet with us. After that meeting, it felt like something we could never have imagined before as a small startup. Then Mark, EE’s CEO at the time and now, saw it and said, “This is great. We definitely need to include this in our marketing campaign.” What left a deep impression on us was that they created an ad, and that ad featured only two devices to showcase EE’s great vision for the future 5G experience. Right, they used our glasses and Samsung phones, and they brought in a Hollywood star named Kevin Bacon to shoot the ad. Over the course of the whole campaign, they spent about £15 million bit by bit, while we did not spend a penny. We were featured for free in this ad, led by a Hollywood star, that became widely known across the UK. I think it’s because we did some things right that, in the process, we gained support from everyone and benefited from that momentum. These are exactly the kinds of things that make cross-border selling so interesting to us. So we work hard to hold ourselves to higher standards, and to work with our overseas customers to innovate together.
XREAL innovates based on Amazon customer feedback
One very new insight here is that, before we launched this product, we never expected that in the US, Steam Deck, a very bestselling handheld gaming console, would pair so well with our glasses. We first heard people mention this in Amazon reviews, saying that it could absolutely connect to Steam Deck and that the experience could be great. So we started looking into it and found that, because it is a handheld console, its physical screen is only a little bigger than a phone screen, but it is a portable gaming device you can carry with you and that has built-in controls. With a device like this, if you pair it with our glasses, you instantly get a gaming experience on a screen larger than 200 inches, and that experience is really great. So we started thinking again about how to improve our software experience, so what did we do? We developed our Nebula software for Steam Deck, and we also built a stronger connection with the community. From there, we looked at how our future products can further improve the experience of using handheld gaming devices with our glasses around this type of gaming. This is still the core user scenario with the strongest stickiness and the highest average usage time today.
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